Comments on: hammering vlogs http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/ Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:03:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Cheryl Colan http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/#comment-820 Cheryl Colan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:23:14 +0000 http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/29/hammering-vlogs/#comment-820 Great job summarizing the presentation, Seth. Thanks for that! I had to miss it, but now I feel like I was there! I'm part of the Show in a Box team, too. Markus beat me to commenting the correction that the plugin developed by Charles Iliya Krempeaux for Show in a Box is called "VideoPress Related Videos" and has nothing to do with the Related Entries plugin you linked to. I'll just add that Related Videos does not select videos for you based on your tags for previous video posts. Instead, it simply provides fields for you to enter videos you decide are related. What we like about this is that you can actually link to videos that were made by someone else, on another site. Thanks again for this write-up. It's helping me plan my own presentation tonight - ensuring I don't forget anything. ;D Great job summarizing the presentation, Seth. Thanks for that! I had to miss it, but now I feel like I was there!

I’m part of the Show in a Box team, too. Markus beat me to commenting the correction that the plugin developed by Charles Iliya Krempeaux for Show in a Box is called “VideoPress Related Videos” and has nothing to do with the Related Entries plugin you linked to. I’ll just add that Related Videos does not select videos for you based on your tags for previous video posts. Instead, it simply provides fields for you to enter videos you decide are related. What we like about this is that you can actually link to videos that were made by someone else, on another site.

Thanks again for this write-up. It’s helping me plan my own presentation tonight - ensuring I don’t forget anything. ;D

]]> By: seth.keen http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/#comment-798 seth.keen Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:14:53 +0000 http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/29/hammering-vlogs/#comment-798 Thanks for the comment Markus. It is not so much that I look upon the process of compression and uploading negatively as I think it is fantastic that the showinabox community are providing a system that allows for all the varying formats including open source. It is more about wondering how this may be streamlined if the option is to compete with something like YouTube, where the aim is to encourage as many users as possible to work on their own independent production. I was imagining for example going through this process with students who in many cases seem to gravitate to the most user friendly not as technical options. This is a tension I believe that we work with as larger entities aim to simplify things to get a mass user base while the alternative-independent media community and artists work on more personal control which comes with more technical skills. In the end, I see these developments as being part of the way towards making changes to accommodate video in a blog. But, in the end the major improvements are made by the tireless work of communities like showinabox. Thanks for the comment Markus. It is not so much that I look upon the process of compression and uploading negatively as I think it is fantastic that the showinabox community are providing a system that allows for all the varying formats including open source. It is more about wondering how this may be streamlined if the option is to compete with something like YouTube, where the aim is to encourage as many users as possible to work on their own independent production. I was imagining for example going through this process with students who in many cases seem to gravitate to the most user friendly not as technical options. This is a tension I believe that we work with as larger entities aim to simplify things to get a mass user base while the alternative-independent media community and artists work on more personal control which comes with more technical skills. In the end, I see these developments as being part of the way towards making changes to accommodate video in a blog. But, in the end the major improvements are made by the tireless work of communities like showinabox.

]]> By: Markus Sandy http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/#comment-795 Markus Sandy Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:05:10 +0000 http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/29/hammering-vlogs/#comment-795 Hi. Nice write up, but I have a few counter-points... I am a member of the Show in a Box community. However, I am not particularly "frustrated with the way a blog content management system handles video". There are many other interesting issues discussed in the group as well. Your description of vPiP gives the impression that it is "labor intensive", when it is really the compression and uploading of *any* video that is relatively labor intensive. How "labor intensive" can vPiP be when it takes less than a minute to use with a mouse to copy and paste some url's??? The revlog blog is now a collection of del.icio.us links. How does that take "hours"? The point of revlogging is that you see something you like and want to share it quickly and easily, which seems to be exactly what Ry is doing. This is not a time consuming process (just press a bookmark in your browser toolbar). The "related vidoes" plugin is different from the "related entries" one you linked to. See the showinabox.tv site for links to Charles' VideoPress related videos and video archive plugins for use with vPiP. Hi. Nice write up, but I have a few counter-points…

I am a member of the Show in a Box community. However, I am not particularly “frustrated with the way a blog content management system handles video”. There are many other interesting issues discussed in the group as well.

Your description of vPiP gives the impression that it is “labor intensive”, when it is really the compression and uploading of *any* video that is relatively labor intensive. How “labor intensive” can vPiP be when it takes less than a minute to use with a mouse to copy and paste some url’s???

The revlog blog is now a collection of del.icio.us links. How does that take “hours”? The point of revlogging is that you see something you like and want to share it quickly and easily, which seems to be exactly what Ry is doing. This is not a time consuming process (just press a bookmark in your browser toolbar).

The “related vidoes” plugin is different from the “related entries” one you linked to. See the showinabox.tv site for links to Charles’ VideoPress related videos and video archive plugins for use with vPiP.

]]> By: jay dedman http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/#comment-794 jay dedman Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:09:27 +0000 http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/29/hammering-vlogs/#comment-794 Great summary of our workshop. Appreciate the documentation. When it's ready, I'd love to show the Video Defunct project to our group. Great summary of our workshop. Appreciate the documentation. When it’s ready, I’d love to show the Video Defunct project to our group.

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